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  Do you think that JW's will publish an updated Rev book to downplay the UN

  by booker-t in

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  with all the scandal about the un do you feel that the gb will have to print a "new" and updated book on rev to disregard the un being the beast of rev so the new jw's coming in won't even be aware that for over 100 years the jw's taught that the un was a disgusting beast and part of satan's organization?

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  AK - Jeff

  Not with the arrogance they have! They were still teaching that 1914 was the start of the end until what, 1926?

  They know that the R and F pays no attention - and they have most convinced that all of that is the work of 'evil opposers' - they turn themselves into a victim here. Nothing will change - especially as long as the UN is so prominent in the news. Now if the UN begins to dissolve - then how do you explain...

  'the beast that was, but is not, but is about to appear' .... they will have to rewrite the NWT again!!!!

  Jeff
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  Did you "shun" your Disfellowshipped or Disassociated Children as a JW?

  by booker-t in

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  when you were a devout jw or if you are now how did you feel "shunning" you df'd or da'd children?

  how can a loving parent totally cut off their child?

  i don't have any children as of now but i would totally kill me to treat my own flesh and blood as if they did not exist and i just don't know what does a parent tell themselves to justify the shunning?

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  Not completely - we just couldn't - and that realization combined with the hatefull attitudes of the elders in that regard [I was removed from the servant body for allowing my 18 yr old, pregnant, homeless, and addicted daughter move in for three months to assure that she was cared for and got medical attention]. Just as I write this my 5 year old granddaughter [the pregnancy we saved] came and hugged me and kissed me goodnight. God how I love her and am glad I can have her in my life. I'm a little choked that that just happened as I wrote this...

  Now - having realized the lie of the 'truth' - we will continue to build a semi-destroyed relationship with our daughter. Much damage was done in an effort to apply the Bible interpretation of the WTS, and also what we knew was right and godly in dealing with our child. But we will be fine - time will heal the wounds.

  Ah, how good is true freedom. I feel sorry for those who have spent the rest of thier lives without contact. Don't know how they could do that. What a twisted religion we all were part of.

  Jeff
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  If you could give one document ....

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  AK - Jeff

  If only one choice - and no specifics to circumstances - I would have to say the UN news release of 3-4-2001 showing that the WTS had been a part of the UN as an NGO for 10 years.... it would have been enough to dislodge my thinking some I think....

  Jeff
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  She Went To Sleep And Woke Up 30 Years Later

  by dh in

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  just came accross this interesting story, it's old news but still thought it was an interesting read.... .

  she went to sleep and woke up 30 years later .

  the real-life story of annie shapiro - who fell into a coma at age 50 in 1963 - is more remarkable than the movie based on her miraculous re-awakening.

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  Something just like that happened to me. I became a JW 30 years ago, and then I woke up and found that everything had changed.

  Dammit, willyoman - you stole my line again...[kidding of course] - but that is precisely how I feel after waking from the WTS Coma of 30+ years...... Jeff
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  UN & wife

  by tepic in

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  when i looked up the un website & found the wt as a ngo i told my wife.

  she implied that it was an apostate site.

  i told her 'i typed in united nations' , how are apostates going to hijack the un site?.

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  AK - Jeff

  Tepic -

  here is a blog with all the info; http://watchtowerunitednations.blogspot.com/

  Might help you put together more than one document. I have developed a dossier of several pages. Pm me and maybe we can work out a way I can transfer to you.

  Jeff
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  Funny Secrets!

  by whyamihere in

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  does anyone have a secret that they have hid for years and it is too funny not to say anything and want to come out now?.

  ok....lol...this is so bad!

  you know the campbell's soup glass jars that have a top you can twist open?

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  When on vacation, being the good dubs we were, we always checked out the local KH to see meeting times, ect. Near Louisville, KY we stopped at one, I saw a car in the lot and thought maybe some of the brothers were inside - I pulled open the door [unlocked], and 15 seconds later the alarms went off - I jumped in the car and wifey and I sped off. Now I wouldn't open the door of a KH for any reason - well, unless I could maybe set off another alarm - that was fun in retrospect

  Jeff
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  What's The Biggest Lie The Witnesses Tell?

  by minimus in

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  is it about the blood issue?

  about the fallability of the governing body?

  that they really love one another??

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  1914 - the source-point for all the other lies. Or maybe on back to 607BCE since that one can be proven to absolutely false - and yet they refuse to change it.

  Jeff
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  Is Your Lifestyle So Much Different Since You Left The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  do you see a difference in the way you live now that your out of the "truth"?

  more materialistic?

  more "worldly"?

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  Well - and btw Minimus -another excellent question - we are still fairly new at this 'having a life' thing. Now, other than on this board I have few friends, so that has changed [but if you consider the conditional nature of friendship inside, I guess I never did, huh?]

  I now feel free to take a political view when it comes up in conversation. I feel no guilt when I decide to allow the scriptures to tell me what to do - without the wt ref's. I am considering the need to actually retire now - and I know that I will not inherit that nice millionaire's house on the hill that I had 'dibs' on - so if I want to enjoy anything materially I best find a way without getting Armageddon spoil...

  Jeff
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  WERE THERE ANY ELDER'S QUARRELS IN YOUR CONGREGATION?

  by badboy in

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  AK - Jeff

  We had a former CO - from the days of Russell that was constantly in trouble with the other elders. He made many public issues about things that he disagreed with - but he died an elder - so I guess his ticket is punched 'Paradise'.....

  Jeff
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  I've been pre-approved!

  by Dawn in

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  my husband who was never a jw does not see the humor in this - but i knew ya'll would.

  occasionally i will ask my mother (a devout jw) a biblical question to get her thinking.

  i used to ask her a lot of questions, but it put a strain on our relationship and i finally decided i just needed to love her and accept her the way she is.

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  I would ask if I can have 'duel-citizenship' here? Get all the way to the final meeting and ask if it is ok to remain in the other church too?

  Then tape record the effort at exocism that would follow and put it on the site -

  Jeff